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7 MAIL ETIQUETTE
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10 1.1 Mailing Lists
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12 1.3 Do Not Mail a Single Individual
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13 1.4 Subscription Required
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14 1.5 Moderation of new posters
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15 1.6 Handling trolls and spam
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16 1.7 How to unsubscribe
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17 1.8 I posted, now what?
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18 1.9 Your emails are public
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20 2. Sending mail
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21 2.1 Reply or New Mail
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22 2.2 Reply to the List
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23 2.3 Use a Sensible Subject
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24 2.4 Do Not Top-Post
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27 2.7 Digest
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28 2.8 Please Tell Us How You Solved The Problem!
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34 1.1 Mailing Lists
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36 The mailing lists we have are all listed and described at
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37 https://curl.haxx.se/mail/
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39 Each mailing list is targeted to a specific set of users and subjects,
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40 please use the one or the ones that suit you the most.
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42 Each mailing list has hundreds up to thousands of readers, meaning that
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43 each mail sent will be received and read by a very large number of people.
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44 People from various cultures, regions, religions and continents.
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48 Netiquette is a common term for how to behave on the internet. Of course, in
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49 each particular group and subculture there will be differences in what is
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50 acceptable and what is considered good manners.
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52 This document outlines what we in the curl project consider to be good
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53 etiquette, and primarily this focus on how to behave on and how to use our
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54 mailing lists.
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58 Many people send one question to one person. One person gets many mails, and
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59 there is only one person who can give you a reply. The question may be
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60 something that other people would also like to ask. These other people have
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61 no way to read the reply, but to ask the one person the question. The one
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62 person consequently gets overloaded with mail.
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64 If you really want to contact an individual and perhaps pay for his or her
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65 services, by all means go ahead, but if it's just another curl question,
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66 take it to a suitable list instead.
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68 1.4 Subscription Required
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70 All curl mailing lists require that you are subscribed to allow a mail to go
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71 through to all the subscribers.
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73 If you post without being subscribed (or from a different mail address than
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74 the one you are subscribed with), your mail will simply be silently
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75 discarded. You have to subscribe first, then post.
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77 The reason for this unfortunate and strict subscription policy is of course
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78 to stop spam from pestering the lists.
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83 subscribers be moderated. This means that after you've subscribed and
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84 sent your first mail to a list, that mail will not be let through to the
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85 list until a mailing list administrator has verified that it is OK and
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86 permits it to get posted.
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89 about curl-related subjects, the moderation "flag" will be switched off and
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90 future posts will go through without being moderated.
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92 The reason for this moderation policy is that we do suffer from spammers who
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93 actually subscribe and send spam to our lists.
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95 1.6 Handling trolls and spam
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97 Despite our good intentions and hard work to keep spam off the lists and to
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98 maintain a friendly and positive atmosphere, there will be times when spam
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99 and or trolls get through.
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101 Troll - "someone who posts inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages
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102 in an online community"
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104 Spam - "use of electronic messaging systems to send unsolicited bulk
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105 messages"
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107 No matter what, we NEVER EVER respond to trolls or spammers on the list. If
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108 you believe the list admin should do something in particular, contact him/her
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109 off-list. The subject will be taken care of as much as possible to prevent
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110 repeated offenses, but responding on the list to such messages never leads to
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111 anything good and only puts the light even more on the offender: which was
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112 the entire purpose of it getting sent to the list in the first place.
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114 Don't feed the trolls!
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116 1.7 How to unsubscribe
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118 You can unsubscribe the same way you subscribed in the first place. You go
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119 to the page for the particular mailing list you're subscribed to and you enter
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120 your email address and password and press the unsubscribe button.
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122 Also, the instructions to unsubscribe are included in the headers of every
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123 mail that is sent out to all curl related mailing lists and there's a footer
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124 in each mail that links to the "admin" page on which you can unsubscribe and
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125 change other options.
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127 You NEVER EVER email the mailing list requesting someone else to take you off
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128 the list.
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130 1.8 I posted, now what?
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132 If you aren't subscribed with the exact same email address that you used to
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133 send the email, your post will just be silently discarded.
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135 If you posted for the first time to the mailing list, you first need to wait
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136 for an administrator to allow your email to go through (moderated). This normally
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137 happens very quickly but in case we're asleep, you may have to wait a few
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138 hours.
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140 Once your email goes through it is sent out to several hundred or even
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141 thousands of recipients. Your email may cover an area that not that many people
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142 know about or are interested in. Or possibly the person who knows about it
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143 is on vacation or under a very heavy work load right now. You may have to wait
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144 for a response and you should not expect to get a response at all, but
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145 hopefully you get an answer within a couple of days.
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147 You do yourself and all of us a service when you include as many details as
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148 possible already in your first email. Mention your operating system and
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149 environment. Tell us which curl version you're using and tell us what you
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150 did, what happened and what you expected would happen. Preferably, show us
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151 what you did with details enough to allow others to help point out the problem
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152 or repeat the same steps in their locations.
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154 Failing to include details will only delay responses and make people respond
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155 and ask for more details and you will have to send a follow-up email that
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156 includes them.
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158 Expect the responses to primarily help YOU debug the issue, or ask YOU
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159 questions that can lead you or others towards a solution or explanation to
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160 whatever you experience.
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162 If you are a repeat offender to the guidelines outlined in this document,
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163 chances are that people will ignore you at will and your chances to get
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164 responses in the future will greatly diminish.
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166 1.9 Your emails are public
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168 Your email, its contents and all its headers and the details in those
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169 headers will be received by every subscriber of the mailing list that you
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170 send your email to.
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172 Your email as sent to a curl mailing list will end up in mail archives, on
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173 the curl web site and elsewhere, for others to see and read. Today and in
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174 the future. In addition to the archives, the mail is sent out to thousands
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175 of individuals. There is no way to undo a sent email.
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177 When sending emails to a curl mailing list, do not include sensitive
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178 information such as user names and passwords; use fake ones, temporary ones
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179 or just remove them completely from the mail. Note that this includes base64
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180 encoded HTTP Basic auth headers.
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182 This public nature of the curl mailing lists makes automatically inserted mail
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183 footers about mails being "private" or "only meant for the recipient" or
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184 similar even more silly than usual. Because they are absolutely not private
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185 when sent to a public mailing list.
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188 2. Sending mail
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190 2.1 Reply or New Mail
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192 Please do not reply to an existing message as a short-cut to post a message
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193 to the lists.
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195 Many mail programs and web archivers use information within mails to keep
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196 them together as "threads", as collections of posts that discuss a certain
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197 subject. If you don't intend to reply on the same or similar subject, don't
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198 just hit reply on an existing mail and change subject, create a new mail.
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200 2.2 Reply to the List
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202 When replying to a message from the list, make sure that you do "group
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203 reply" or "reply to all", and not just reply to the author of the single
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204 mail you reply to.
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206 We're actively discouraging replying back to the single person by setting
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207 the Reply-To: field in outgoing mails back to the mailing list address,
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208 making it harder for people to mail the author directly, if only by mistake.
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210 2.3 Use a Sensible Subject
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212 Please use a subject of the mail that makes sense and that is related to the
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213 contents of your mail. It makes it a lot easier to find your mail afterwards
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214 and it makes it easier to track mail threads and topics.
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216 2.4 Do Not Top-Post
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218 If you reply to a message, don't use top-posting. Top-posting is when you
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219 write the new text at the top of a mail and you insert the previous quoted
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220 mail conversation below. It forces users to read the mail in a backwards
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221 order to properly understand it.
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223 This is why top posting is so bad (in top posting order):
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225 A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
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226 Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
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227 A: Top-posting.
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228 Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?
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230 Apart from the screwed up read order (especially when mixed together in a
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231 thread when someone responds using the mandated bottom-posting style), it
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232 also makes it impossible to quote only parts of the original mail.
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234 When you reply to a mail. You let the mail client insert the previous mail
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235 quoted. Then you put the cursor on the first line of the mail and you move
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236 down through the mail, deleting all parts of the quotes that don't add
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237 context for your comments. When you want to add a comment you do so, inline,
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238 right after the quotes that relate to your comment. Then you continue
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239 downwards again.
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241 When most of the quotes have been removed and you've added your own words,
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242 you're done!
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244 2.5 HTML is not for mails
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246 Please switch off those HTML encoded messages. You can mail all those funny
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247 mails to your friends. We speak plain text mails.
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249 2.6 Quoting
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251 Quote as little as possible. Just enough to provide the context you cannot
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252 leave out. A lengthy description can be found here:
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254 https://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html
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256 2.7 Digest
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258 We allow subscribers to subscribe to the "digest" version of the mailing
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259 lists. A digest is a collection of mails lumped together in one single mail.
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261 Should you decide to reply to a mail sent out as a digest, there are two
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262 things you MUST consider if you really really cannot subscribe normally
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263 instead:
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265 Cut off all mails and chatter that is not related to the mail you want to
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266 reply to.
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268 Change the subject name to something sensible and related to the subject,
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269 preferably even the actual subject of the single mail you wanted to reply to
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271 2.8 Please Tell Us How You Solved The Problem!
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273 Many people mail questions to the list, people spend some of their time and
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274 make an effort in providing good answers to these questions.
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276 If you are the one who asks, please consider responding once more in case
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277 one of the hints was what solved your problems. The guys who write answers
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278 feel good to know that they provided a good answer and that you fixed the
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279 problem. Far too often, the person who asked the question is never heard from
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280 again, and we never get to know if he/she is gone because the problem was
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281 solved or perhaps because the problem was unsolvable!
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283 Getting the solution posted also helps other users that experience the same
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284 problem(s). They get to see (possibly in the web archives) that the
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285 suggested fixes actually has helped at least one person.